May 15, 2020
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Leonid Kravchuk on the first convocation of the Rada: They swore, of course. I don't remember a fight

"30 years ago, 15 on May 1990 of the year, the Verkhovna Rada of the Ukrainian SSR of the XII convocation began, which later became the Verkhovna Rada of the first convocation. the countdown of the work of the Ukrainian legislative body has begun, "- with these words I began my congratulation on 30 - the anniversary of Ukrainian parliamentarism, Verkhovna Rada speaker Dmitry Razumkov.

"KP" in Ukraine "phoned the deputy of the first convocation of the Verkhovna Rada, who later became the speaker of the parliament, Leonid Kravchuk, and found out what memories he had about such a historic day and how the work of the parliament of the first convocation differed from the current activities of the legislative body of the country.

- Leonid Makarovich, today the Ukrainian parliament is congratulated on 30 - anniversary. What do you remember 12 May 1990 - th - the first day of the work of the Ukrainian parliament?

- At that time, Ukraine was still part of the Soviet Union. To say that it was the parliament of independent Ukraine is a great exaggeration! It was the Verkhovna Rada of Soviet Communist Ukraine.

I don’t remember any features of that particular day. But speaking more broadly, the Verkhovna Rada began work that day, to which more democratic forces, especially from Western Ukraine, came. The People’s Movement of Ukraine was born, headed by Vyacheslav Chornovil ...

The Verkhovna Rada 90 - the year opened the opportunity to fight for independent Ukraine and moved the center of the fight from the street to the parliament hall. That is, this struggle has acquired the outlines of a state-official level.

Do not believe it, but the parliament was still an unprofessional, inconstantly functioning body. He met twice a year - to approve the budget and to vote for some one extremely important issue. In general, during the year the deputies worked in plenary for 5 days, no more.

- And how much did the deputy receive for such work?

- The deputy received 250 Soviet rubles per month. Is it a lot or a little? At that time, the Volga cost thousand rubles, "Lada" - 8 thousand. If a person worked in the Verkhovna Rada for one convocation, he could afford to buy a car!

- It was possible to combine parliamentary activity with other work, correctly ?

- The issue of combining did not go. There was not even such a thing. Everyone had a permanent place of work, where he worked. They came to Rada meetings, as I told you, twice a year.

- What privileges did the deputies have then?

- Salary than no benefit? There were, of course, some kind of transportation privileges. But there was no particular need to ride. And, by the way, we did not have an army of assistants in number 16, like modern deputies.

- From what moment did the Verkhovna Rada become professional and switch to the daily work schedule?

- Since independence. Then the deputies were already meeting on an ongoing basis.

- And how did it differ from the modern Verkhovna Rada?

- Then there were no committees, all kinds of commissions, there wasn’t even the concept of "majority", the rules issued. There were deputy groups of regions.

- How were decisions made then: the majority from the constitutional composition of the parliament or from the actually present deputies in the hall?

- At first, the size of the parliament was 250 deputies. And to make a decision, a majority of the votes of the entire Rada was required. But then almost everyone voted without any additional questions. Only one or two deputies could oppose. The party said: “it is necessary,” the deputies answered: “yes.”

And then there was no such thing that the party brought a person to parliament, and as soon as he received a mandate, he immediately changed his position, began individual game. And now in the Rada we have a mono-majority in 200 deputies, but they can not collect votes for all bills - they give 190 - 190 votes. Today we have the Rada formally democratic, but actually dependent on many factors and people.

- In the first convocation of the parliament of independent Ukraine, there were skirmishes, fights brawls? You, being a speaker, how you pacified deputies?

- Swearing, of course. I don’t remember the fight. Then protest activity began to develop. For example, there were hunger strikes for deputies. Those who were starving came to meetings with white headbands that read: “I'm starving.”

- In the modern parliament, deputies they love to "work" on the sidelines of the Verkhovna Rada, but how then?

- We spent a little time on the sidelines. Journalists on the sidelines could communicate with deputies. But there was no mass media presence.

- And how often did the deputies go to the buffet? Did dinner cost much?

- They went. The buffet was the same as it is now (on the ground floor of parliament. - Auth.). Deputies mainly took tea, sandwiches. It was cheap, very cheap. After all, in fact, everything was sold there at cost, without any markups.

By the way

1500 laws for 5 years of work

The first convocation of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine was very fruitful. Deputies made historic decisions.

"One of the first state steps was the laws" On the State Border of Ukraine "of November 4 1991 of the year and" About Citizenship of Ukraine "dated October 8 1991 of the year. In January-February 1992, the State Symbols determined State Symbols - State national anthem, the State flag and the small coat of arms of Ukraine are a trident, "the Verkhovna Rada press service reports.

The legislative harvest of the first convocation of the Verkhovna Rada was impressive - 1500 the legislator Telnyh acts. But perhaps the main achievement was that 12 July 1990 of the year, the Verkhovna Rada adopted the Declaration on State Sovereignty of Ukraine, and 20 on August 1991 of the year - The Act of Declaration of Independence of Ukraine.

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Familiar faces

In the first convocation of the Verkhovna Rada there were many famous people to date. Then the laws were adopted twice by the President of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma. The deputy’s mandate was runaway ex-prime minister Pavel Lazarenko. One of the youngest deputies was the ex-Minister of Health Raisa Bogatyreva. Once the main “moralist” of the country, Vasily Kostitsky was also among the parliamentary pioneers of independent Ukraine.

In the historical convocation of the Verkhovna Rada, the current one of the chief political strategists of the Petro Poroshenko team - Igor Hryniv, and former BP speakers Alexander Moroz and Ivan Plyushch.

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